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Pedro Pires to deliver speech on Freedom, Equality, and Democracy at Wellesley CollegePrintE-mail
Saturday, 05 January 2013
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WELLESLEY, MA -- Pedro Pires, former President of Cape Verde (2001-2011) and 2011 winner of the Mo Ibrahim Prize for Excellence in African Leadership, will travel to Wellesley College to deliver the keynote address Freedom, Equality, and Democracy at the Madeleine Albright Institute for Global Affairs on Friday, January 11.

The event is free and open to the public. It will begin at 3pm in the Diana Chapman Walsh Alumnae Hall, followed by a reception that is also open to the public.

President Pires will be the first Head of State to be hosted by the Albright Institute and will have an opportunity to provide his first-hand account of Cape Verde's trajectory from being an oppressed, colonial entity to a shining star of democracy in Africa.



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+2 #1 Joao Silva 2013-01-05 15:46
Pedro Pires, para ser coerente, tem que pedir desculpa à Naçao pelos dez anos (1981 a 1991)de regime de partido. Em 1980, com a queda do principio da Unidade Guinè_Cabo Verde, o PAIGC deveria dissolver e ser intalado um regime democràtico Ele foi, ao tempo, um duro do regime e, em 1990, um defensor de abertura politica.
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-1 #2 The truth about PP 2013-01-05 17:46
Wasn't this guy a gorilla back in the days in the jungles of Guinea-Bissau?

Isn't he also accused of having committed fraud twice in the Presidential elections of Cape Verde?

One last question:

How does a president of a country where the prime minister is actually more important (pairlamentary system) the de-facto leader, win the Mo Ibrahim Prize for Excellence in African Leadership? Shouldn't've the prize have gone to the PM, instead?


Mo Ibrahim should've done his home-work before he dished out his hard or possibly ill-earned oil money
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+4 #3 palo 2013-01-05 19:58
Quoting The truth about PP:
Wasn't this guy a gorilla back in the days in the jungles of Guinea-Bissau?

Isn't he also accused of having committed fraud twice in the Presidential elections of Cape Verde?

One last question:

How does a president of a country where the prime minister is actually more important (pairlamentary system) the de-facto leader, win the Mo Ibrahim Prize for Excellence in African Leadership? Shouldn't've the prize have gone to the PM, instead?


Mo Ibrahim should've done his home-work before he dished out his hard or possibly ill-earned oil money

Looks like you did not do your homework before posting. Shoot first, ask questions later.
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-2 #4 xatiado 2013-01-05 21:43
Pedro Pires dja branco dja...Konta nhos tchiska. Ora ki el bem nsta dal um tiketi di lotaria pel ganha milhoes di dolla pa nohs morreh di ciumes. Unico lider verdadeiro ki kabo verdi tem...kez otuz eh so oportunistas...Viva PP
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+4 #5 xatiado 2013-01-05 22:32
Paolo he was a gorilla fighting in the jungles of Guine for ungreatefull monkeys like you
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0 #6 Jorge Moreira 2013-01-06 00:05
PP, second left hand man of Cabral? Sources say the first president Aristide Pereira was Cabral's right hand man, his favorite. Is it true? Right is superior to left, some say.

But then again some people swear that PP was never actually in Guinea Bissau. He was a convenience store owner in Dakar, they claim.
So how did he manage to be appointed Prime Minister after the war?

And what about the vehicular homicide involving his father in Praia?

Answer these questions, xatiado.
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0 #7 O Pulpito 2013-01-06 11:29
El sta bem fala di 15 anos di FREEDON? Trosaaaaaaaaaa propi.
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0 #8 xatiado 2013-01-06 12:21
Answer: Let's say Cabral picked AP as the right hand man and Pedro Pires as left hand man. First of all, you agree that he was a chosen hand amongst many. Agreed?! If he was just a store owner in in Dakar, and still, he was Cabral second pick, that puts him in high pedestal. Imagine, than, if he was on the battlefield, he would rate, probably, better than Cabral himself.
As far as the, homicide, I know very little about the case, but forward your questions to his lawyer, Carlos Veiga, he might have a better answer for you. He was the one who was able to defend him successfully. Remember, he is a great lawyer, and he was Pedro Pires's left hand. That is ironic, isn't it?
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+1 #9 xatiado 2013-01-06 12:28
Pedro Pires dja convidado y el ta kontinua ta ser convidado, pa angustia de tantos...Nhos meste konshe Historia em vez de papia di storia....Alias Pedro Pires ta faze Historia, minuto a minuto. Palo, Pulpito ku Jorge Moreira (cu mi inclusive)nhos ta parceh na storia so si eh di nho lobo cu tubim....
Xam para pamoh nsta bah prapara pam ba obi kel grandi omi papia....El eh nos orgulho!!!!!
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+1 #10 Sumbango Musteru 2013-01-06 13:26
Ess propi que eh tchacota, Pedro pires assassino pa fala de liberdade democracia.ate na merca dja perdedo cabeça
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+1 #11 Jorge Moreira 2013-01-06 16:04
Quoting xatiado:
Answer: Let's say Cabral picked AP as the right hand man and Pedro Pires as left hand man. First of all, you agree that he was a chosen hand amongst many. Agreed?! If he was just a store owner in in Dakar, and still, he was Cabral second pick, that puts him in high pedestal. Imagine, than, if he was on the battlefield, he would rate, probably, better than Cabral himself.
As far as the, homicide, I know very little about the case, but forward your questions to his lawyer, Carlos Veiga, he might have a better answer for you. He was the one who was able to defend him successfully. Remember, he is a great lawyer, and he was Pedro Pires's left hand. That is ironic, isn't it?


Sure is ironic. CV defended PP's father in a homicide case. PP's father is acquitted. The people are angry but don't make an outcry. A few months later CV is appointed Prucurador Geral (attorney general) by the acquitted's son, PP, the prime minister.
Years later CV figures he should take over. "I'm going to start my own political party", he reasons to himself. He gathers around some "doutores" for a top secret meeting.
Enter the birth of MPD
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+1 #12 xatiado 2013-01-06 16:46
Jorge, let's not demonize some and "Deify" others. I hope you understand the difference between correlations and causation.
The timing that you used to substantiate you argument is way off. Veiga never formed a party. For one MPD, is a movement, not a party. But even if it were a party, CV, is not a founder, he was invited to participate.

His participation and other things that you mentioned have nothing to do with the incident in question. You were very acrobatic trying to tie the dots. I know the chronology of the events. They are unrelated. Please use a different argument or do both of us a favor. Quit!

If Carlos Veiga accepted the promotion for the acquittal of PP's dad, then, he is, in my standards, in the same boat as the ones you are trying to smear. Wouldn't you say so?!

Your leaders are not guided by ethical and moral principles? I see, only the law matters!
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0 #13 xatiado 2013-01-06 16:47
your argument, I meant
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+1 #14 xatiado 2013-01-06 17:10
PP rest assured that I am forever so grateful because you gave the best part of your life to fight for me, poor barefoot child, of the islands, who at the time, was too young to fend for himself. Now, I stand tall- upon the indestructible foundations that you afforded me- to fight for me, for you, and for those that you would be fighting for, camarada.

I shall not, ever, shy away from an opportunity to defend you, com unhas e dentes. In my world, you have reached immortality.
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+3 #15 Jorge Moreira 2013-01-06 19:36
Xatiado, you sound like a deranged camarada. I didn't know there were die-hard camaradas in U.S or E.U. Usually fanatic camaradas are found only in Cabo Verde and Guinea-Bissau. And the truth is-deep inside they don't identify with the ideology, they just fake the funk to keep the goods.
Trust me, I'm a very good observer.Few CVs have a solid loyalty to a political ideology. CVs are survivors, they'll say viva flano-detal or sekilanu, but as soon as that given party or individual loses an election, they switch the music.

As for the MPD, it is a political party, founded by CV. He and a few others created the party. He was the one who did the inviting.
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0 #16 palo 2013-01-06 23:07
Quoting xatiado:
Paolo he was a gorilla fighting in the jungles of Guine for ungreatefull monkeys like you

Wow, you have a very extensive vocabulary. I'm thoroughly impressed.
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+4 #17 palo 2013-01-06 23:13
Quoting xatiado:
For one MPD, is a movement, not a party.
Semantics, my friend, just semantics. What you're doing is telling us that flatulence does not cause farts.
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0 #18 Partido 2013-01-06 23:27
The more educated the CV electorate gets, the less likely they will vote for the camaradas.

Most camaradas can barely read or write.
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0 #19 palo 2013-01-06 23:41
Quoting Partido:
The more educated the CV electorate gets, the less likely they will vote for the camaradas.

Most camaradas can barely read or write.

I'm a nice guy so I'll say that you live in a parallel universe, but reality places you in a perpendicular one
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0 #20 Partido 2013-01-07 00:13
Camarada palo you know I'm telling the truth. If the results of the counties with most educated people, Praia, Sal, Mindelo, basically all the metropolises, camaradas lost.

If you analyse it carefully you see a pattern of correlation, the more education, the less likely they are to vote for a certain party.
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+2 #21 palo 2013-01-07 00:37
Quoting Partido:
Camarada palo you know I'm telling the truth. If the results of the counties with most educated people, Praia, Sal, Mindelo, basically all the metropolises, camaradas lost.

If you analyse it carefully you see a pattern of correlation, the more education, the less likely they are to vote for a certain party.

Partioso, what I see is democracy in action. Whenever people are fed up with those in power, they elect a new crew. That's been true since 1990 in CV and for far longer in countries practicing democracy. Let's have a talk about this 20 years from now.
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0 #22 palo 2013-01-07 00:39
I meant Partido, got corrected by the iPad.
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0 #23 Descartes 2013-01-07 00:56
João Silva, no actual contexto é facil falar de multi-partidarismo. Ês daqueles que pensam que é possível pôr a carroça à frente dos bois, ou que se constrói uma casa de cima para baixo.
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-1 #24 Partido 2013-01-07 01:08
Quoting palo:
Quoting Partido:
Camarada palo you know I'm telling the truth. If the results of the counties with most educated people, Praia, Sal, Mindelo, basically all the metropolises, camaradas lost.

If you analyse it carefully you see a pattern of correlation, the more education, the less likely they are to vote for a certain party.

Partioso, what I see is democracy in action. Whenever people are fed up with those in power, they elect a new crew. That's been true since 1990 in CV and for far longer in countries practicing democracy. Let's have a talk about this 20 years from now.


But you must admit that there's a pattern, in virtually every concelho(county ), where there's a sizable number of educated people, camaradas have lost since 1990.
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0 #25 Partido 2013-01-07 01:43
I'll say one thing, last thing I'll say today: the camaradas are very well organized and ideologically consistent. In these two regards they're superior to the other guys.
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+2 #26 palo 2013-01-07 10:24
Quoting Partido:
Quoting palo:
Quoting Partido:
Camarada palo you know I'm telling the truth. If the results of the counties with most educated people, Praia, Sal, Mindelo, basically all the metropolises, camaradas lost.

If you analyse it carefully you see a pattern of correlation, the more education, the less likely they are to vote for a certain party.

Partioso, what I see is democracy in action. Whenever people are fed up with those in power, they elect a new crew. That's been true since 1990 in CV and for far longer in countries practicing democracy. Let's have a talk about this 20 years from now.


But you must admit that there's a pattern, in virtually every concelho(county ), where there's a sizable number of educated people, camaradas have lost since 1990.

Partido, you first must stop making assumptions as to what party or ideology I adhere to. Don't be so simple minded. The fact that I don't agree with your statements does not put me in the "camaradas" column. Should I start believing that you're a fascist because your words are opposite of mine?

Rest to follow
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-4 #27 palo 2013-01-07 10:28
Regarding the pattern, yes there's one. The opposing Party is Always getting the benefit of the doubt, since they're not being held accountable for things they're NOT DOING, so the party in power loses a few and wins a few. That being said, if I follow YOUR reasoning, then the same pattern has so far worked AGAINST the MpD. No one in their right mind would believe that merely 10 years after cruising to a historic victory against the dictators, they'd be so soundly defeated and up to date, never being able to regain the governing power. Yet that's what happened, so the most sophisticated, educated voters totally contradict your line of thinking.
How can you explain the inability of the MpD to elect a PM? That's because people have MEMORIES. Yes, the PAICV were bad, yes they did bad things, but people did not elect the MpD for them to be worse. They did not elect the MpD for them to hand the country over to the Tugas and close friends, to give sweet deals to Italians and whomever lined their pockets with gold.
They got elected to do a better job than the ousted party and they couldn't deliver, so got got booted in favor of the old lover. Ask any woman, and she'll tell you that she can forgive her lover cheating on her a thousand times as long as he provides for her. After all it is just a convenient relationship. On the contrary, she'll never, never forgive the love of her life for just ONE indiscretion. The reason? She never expected much from the lover but she did everything from the love of her life.
The MpD was CV's love, the one who delivered her from the oppressor and it failed miserably, so she had no other choice other than go back to the old lover. I believe that the day CV is rid of Veiga the MpD will regain power.
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0 #28 Cidadao Atento! 2013-01-07 11:18
Como eh possivel que um ex-ditador se transforme em um DEMOCRATA?
Durante 15 anos este homem ditou, mandou torturar, perseguiu e causou a morte de pessoas que resistiam ao regime.
As pressoas teem a memoria custa e por isso eh preciso lembrar-lhes que.....
....Pedro Pires foi a figura que presonalizou e REGIME DO PARTIDO UNICO, que oprimiu durante 15 anos o povo cabovetrdeano.
Essa NODOA nao Sai nem com petroleo!
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+2 #29 palo 2013-01-07 11:18
Quoting The truth about PP:
Wasn't this guy a gorilla back in the days in the jungles of Guinea-Bissau?

Isn't he also accused of having committed fraud twice in the Presidential elections of Cape Verde?

One last question:

How does a president of a country where the prime minister is actually more important (pairlamentary system) the de-facto leader, win the Mo Ibrahim Prize for Excellence in African Leadership? Shouldn't've the prize have gone to the PM, instead?


Mo Ibrahim should've done his home-work before he dished out his hard or possibly ill-earned oil money

Yes, he was a gorilla and across from him stood some bears. The gorillas beat the bears and the rest is History. Deal with it.
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-2 #30 palo 2013-01-07 11:44
Quoting Cidadao Atento!:
Como eh possivel que um ex-ditador se transforme em um DEMOCRATA?
Durante 15 anos este homem ditou, mandou torturar, perseguiu e causou a morte de pessoas que resistiam ao regime.
As pressoas teem a memoria custa e por isso eh preciso lembrar-lhes que.....
....Pedro Pires foi a figura que presonalizou e REGIME DO PARTIDO UNICO, que oprimiu durante 15 anos o povo cabovetrdeano.
Essa NODOA nao Sai nem com petroleo!

Prostitutas se tornaram em mulheres exemplares, assassinos em cidadãos de primeira, analfabetos em doutores, etc. Ignoranti gó, nunca bira inteligenti.
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